IS FAITH INFERIOR TO REASON?

IS FAITH INFERIOR TO REASON?

Atheists assert that faith is inferior to reason. One of the reasons (no pun untended) for this is that they usually have a misconception of what faith actually is, thinking it is blind faith or credulity. True Biblical faith is:

“Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen”—Hebrews 11:1 NASB

“Faith shows the reality of what we hope for, it is the evidence of things we cannot see”—Hebrews 11:1 NLT

“Faith” here is from the Greek word pistis, which refers “to confidence that something is real, with a strong implication that action will ensue from this belief” (NLT Word Study System).

So Biblical faith is not a blind belief in something without any good reason to think so. For example, a person may be getting monthly retirement payments from a large, stable entity, such as the United States government. He/she has a very reasonable expectation of receiving next month’s payment, and so on, and plans accordingly. This could be called “faith” in the US government’s ability to pay.  Reasonable people have a reasonable expectation of “day and night” (Genesis 8:22) and plan accordingly. Biblical faith is built upon truth and facts.

“Every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God”—Hebrews 3:4 NASB

When we see houses and buildings, we know, or have faith, that they were designed and built by humans, even though we may not have seen the designer(s) or the builder(s). This very well illustrates the relationship between reason and faith. Real faith is built upon reason and facts, not blind belief.

Many people do not think the Bible encourages the use of reason, but it does, as can be seen from the scriptures themselves:

“The wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable”—James 3:17 NASB

“The proverbs . . . for learning what wisdom and discipline are, to understand words of deep meaning, for acquiring a disciplined insight, uprightness, justice and fair dealing; for teaching sound judgment to the simple, knowledge and reflection to the young; for perceiving the meaning of proverbs and obscure sayings”—Proverbs 1:1-6 NJB

We can see from this that the Bible encourages thinking and reason. Christians are told to use reason:

“Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience”—1 Peter 3:15 NIV

The early Christians set a good example for us by using reason. Notice some examples of this:

“As was his custom, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and proving that the Messiah had to suffer and rise from the dead”—Acts 17:2,3 NIV

“He reasoned in the synagogue with both Jews and God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day-by-day who happened to be there”—Acts 17:17 NIV

“Every Sabbath he reasoned in the synagogue, trying to persuade Jews and Greeks”—Acts 18:4 NIV

“Paul . . . went into the synagogue and reasoned with the Jews”—Acts 18:19 NIV

“Now as he reasoned about righteousness, self-control, and the judgment to come, Felix was afraid and answered, ‘Go away for now; when I have a convenient time I will call for you”—Acts 24:25 NKJV

We can see from this last scripture that often people are not comfortable with reason. But the point is that the early Christians used reasoning and Christians today also use reason. For example, Christians are given the reason Jesus came to earth:

“The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work”—1 John 3:8 NIV

Biblical faith is built upon the vital fact that Jesus, the Son of God, came to earth for a purpose. Notice how important is this faith that uses reason:

“Every child of God defeats this evil world, and we achieve this victory through our faith. And who can win this battle against the world? Only those who believe that Jesus is the Son of God”—1 John 5:4,5 NLT

Those who have Biblical faith use reason, but faith is not inferior to reason. The two work hand in hand.

 

One thought on “IS FAITH INFERIOR TO REASON?

  1. RT1: Atheists assert that faith is inferior to reason.

    GW1: Of course faith is inferior to reason, regardless of who has asserted this.

    RT1: One of the reasons (no pun untended) for this is that they usually have a misconception of what faith actually is, thinking it is blind faith or credulity.

    GW1: What is faith? Faith is belief untuned to or misaligned with evidence and/or logic, and usually tuned to or aligned solely or primarily with authority, majority opinion, peer pressure, tradition, intuition, wishes and hopes, or some combination of these. Having faith leads to poor judgement and bad behavior, and thus it is a vice. Here are some examples of faith: “I have faith that Jesus died, came back to life, and is alive today.” “I have faith that extraterrestrials from other galaxies live among us.” “I have faith that God exists.”

    RT1: True Biblical faith is: “Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen”—Hebrews 11:1 NASB

    GW1: This definition is consistent with the one I presented above. This verse means that faith is holding a proposition to be probably true, when you hope that it is true and you have no or little evidence to support it. The perfect example is “I have faith that Jesus came back to life.”

    RT1: “Faith shows the reality of what we hope for, it is the evidence of things we cannot see”—Hebrews 11:1 NLT

    GW1: This is just the same verse from a different bible translation or edition. You should be using the NIV.

    RT1: So Biblical faith is not a blind belief in something without any good reason to think so.

    GW1: False. “Things not seen” refers to the blind part. Reason is based on “things seen.”

    RT1: For example, a person may be getting monthly retirement payments from a large, stable entity, such as the United States government. He/she has a very reasonable expectation of receiving next month’s payment, and so on, and plans accordingly. This could be called “faith” in the US government’s ability to pay.

    GW1: False. On the basis of reason the person has confidence that they will receive their payments. It has nothing to do with faith. They have great evidence that the payments have regularly occurred in the past.

    RT1: Reasonable people have a reasonable expectation of “day and night” (Genesis 8:22) and plan accordingly.

    GW1: Yes, and this has nothing to do with faith. You are confused.

    RT1: Biblical faith is built upon truth and facts.

    GW1: False. Just the opposite. Just look at the verse you presented. Faith is not built on truth and facts. It is built on “things not seen.”

    RT1: “Every house is built by someone, but the builder of all things is God”—Hebrews 3:4 NASB

    GW1: This is a statement of faith. You hope that our universe was created or produced by God when the evidence does not unequivocally support that hope. In fact we now know that God does not exist. This is the conclusion from reason in contrast to faith.

    RT1: When we see houses and buildings, we know, or have faith, that they were designed and built by humans, even though we may not have seen the designer(s) or the builder(s).

    GW1: False. By reason we know houses were built by humans because we have overwhelming evidence to support this hypothesis. It has nothing to do with faith. On the other hand, you do not have overwhelming evidence to support the hypothesis that God created our universe. You reached that conclusion by faith. In fact we now know that God does not exist. My Holocaust argument is one proof, and you have found no error in it.

    RT1: This very well illustrates the relationship between reason and faith. Real faith is built upon reason and facts, not blind belief.

    GW1: False. You are just confused. The perfect example of faith is the belief that Jesus came back to life. That is an event you hope for and wish for, but for which there is insufficient good evidence. In fact, there is no good evidence at all for it.

    RT1: Many people do not think the Bible encourages the use of reason, but it does, as can be seen from the scriptures themselves:

    GW1: I would not say that the Bible never encourages reason, but it does encourage faith. You even presented a verse to show that it does.

    RT1: “The wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable”—James 3:17 NASB

    GW1: This is another example of faith. The writer believes that God, with great virtues, exists. He hopes that this is true, but doesn’t have good evidence for it. However, if God did exist, he would be omni intelligent and rational.

    RT1: “The proverbs . . . for learning what wisdom and discipline are, to understand words of deep meaning, for acquiring a disciplined insight, uprightness, justice and fair dealing; for teaching sound judgment to the simple, knowledge and reflection to the young; for perceiving the meaning of proverbs and obscure sayings”—Proverbs 1:1-6 NJB

    GW1: This describes a process closer to reason than to faith.

    RT1: We can see from this that the Bible encourages thinking and reason.

    GW1: As I said before, I do not claim that the Bible never encourages reason. But it definitely encourages faith, as you demonstrated earlier.

    RT1: The early Christians set a good example for us by using reason. Notice some examples of this:

    GW1: False. The early Christians set an example of faith which is a vice, not a virtue.

    RT1: “As was his custom, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and proving that the Messiah had to suffer and rise from the dead”—Acts 17:2,3 NIV

    GW1: This just means that Paul had debates. Unfortunately, Paul was almost always wrong. Why? Because he his conclusions were based on faith, not reason. There is no good evidence that Jesus came back to life. It appears that Paul was delusional. What is a delusion? A delusion is a false belief strongly resistant to evidence and change.

    RT1: “He reasoned in the synagogue with both Jews and God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day-by-day who happened to be there”—Acts 17:17 NIV “Every Sabbath he reasoned in the synagogue, trying to persuade Jews and Greeks”—Acts 18:4 NIV “Paul . . . went into the synagogue and reasoned with the Jews”—Acts 18:19 NIV

    GW1: These verses just mean that Paul thought and debated in different places. In fact, he did not use reason. He used faith to present his side.

    GW1: You are still evading debate of my Holocaust argument. This is not surprising because it is a “knock down” argument. God does not exist.

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