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Are Jesus and God the Father Two Separate Individuals?

Are Jesus and God the Father Two Separate Individuals?

  <a class=John 8:17-18 NLT Illustrated: "What Greater Witness ..." />   Are Jesus and God the Father two separate individuals? This seems like a strange question to ask. Trinitarians try to explain how their doctrine works with explanations such as this: “While the three persons of the Godhead are distinct, they cannot be separated. That is, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are co-equal and co-eternal. They exist simultaneously, not consecutively” (Trinitarian website). Does this make any sense? They claim the doctrine is true, yet, they admit it is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to understand. Let’s examine what the Bible says, and see if the truth is really that difficult to understand.    John 8:16-18 “If I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me. In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me” (NIV). In these verses, Jesus twice says “the Father . . . sent” him, which means they are two separate and distinct people, because the sender and the one sent cannot be the same, nor can they be in the same location. He also says the Father is with him, indicating they are separate and distinct. Jesus also says the witness of “two” individuals is true. ‘I’m one, and my Father who sent me is the other,’ he says.  Obviously, Jesus and his Father are two separate and distinct people.

John 10:30 – Are the Father and Jesus “one” within a Trinity? Or, are they “one” in unity, the same as the disciples are in John 17:11,20-23?  Since the disciples are not “God”, yet are to be “one” with God and Jesus and with one another, obviously they are “one” in unity. The Greek word “hen” is in the neuter gender, and is translated as “one”, but this is not the numeral “one”. To be the numeral “one” it would have to be in the masculine gender. Anyway, at John 8:17,18, Jesus said that he and his Father are “two”, numerically speaking. read more

Was Jesus Created?

Was Jesus Created?

Is the Bible reliable?
Was Jesus created?

Was Jesus created? – No. not according many Bible scholars, preachers, creeds, and Christian denominations, who say Jesus has existed from eternity. Notice:

“The Son uncreated . . . the Son eternal”—Athanasian Creed

“Within the one Being that is God, there exists three eternally . . . coeternal persons”—The Forgotten Trinity, by James White, p 23

Since this is the case, why is there even any question about whether or not Jesus was created? — The reason why is because of what the Bible has to say. read more

Did Jesus Witness For Himself?

Did Jesus Witness For Himself?

Is the Bible reliable?
Did Jesus witness For himself?

Skeptics and critics have alleged that Jesus’ words in the gospel of John contradict about whether or not Jesus witnessed for himself. Did Jesus witness for himself?

ALLEGED CONTRADICTION:

“According to the Gospel of John, what did Jesus say about bearing his own witness?
(a) “If I bear witness to myself, my testimony is not true” (John 5:31)
(b) “Even if I do bear witness to myself, my testimony is true” (John 8:14)”

What Jesus was referring to in John 5:31? Was he saying that if he witnessed for himself his testimony wasn’t true? read more

Is Jesus the Only Begotten God?

Is Jesus the Only Begotten God?

 
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Is Jesus “the only begotten God” (John 1:18). Most translations render the phrase as, “the only begotten Son”. However, the very important Greek manuscript P66 from about 175-200 CE, shown above, has “the only begotten God” at John 1:18. But, why the difference? Which rendering from the Greek text of John 1:18 is more accurate? How can Jesus be “God” (John 1:1), and also be “the begotten from the Father” (John 1:14)

John 1:18“No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him” (NASB). read more

Did Jesus Die Before Or After Passover?

Did Jesus Die Before Or After Passover?

Is the Bible reliable?
Can the Bible be trusted?

Skeptics and critics of the Bible often claim that the gospel of John contradicts the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John,  in reporting Jesus died before, rather than after, the Passover. Did Jesus die before, or after, Passover?

Alleged contradiction:

Was Jesus crucified on the daytime before the Passover meal or the daytime after?
(a) After (Mark 14:12-17)
(b) Before. Before the feast of the Passover (John 13:1) Judas went out at night (John 13:30). The other
disciples thought he was going out to buy supplies to prepare for the Passover meal (John 13:29). When
Jesus was arrested, the Jews did not enter Pilate’s judgment hall because they wanted to stay clean to
eat the Passover (John 18:28). When the judgment was pronounced against Jesus, it was about the sixth
hour on the day of Preparation for the Passover (John 19:14) read more

Does Forgiving Sins Mean Jesus Is God?

Does Forgiving Sins Mean Jesus Is God?

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Many Christians have been taught and believe that Jesus Christ is Almighty God because he actually forgave sins while he was on earth. Does forgiving sins mean that Jesus is God? Let’s analyze the scriptures objectively, and see for ourselves.

Mark 2:5-7“When Jesus saw their faith, he saw to the  paralytic, ‘Child, your sins are forgiven.’ Now some of the scribes were sitting there asking themselves, ‘ Why does this man speak that way? He is blaspheming. Who but God alone can forgive sins?” (NAB).  Does this assertion by Jesus’ enemies that, ‘only God can forgive sins’, mean that Jesus is God? Notice next what term Jesus uses to describe himself: read more

Who Is Jesus’ God?

Who Is Jesus’ God?

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Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is thought by many to be Almighty God, along with God the Father, and the holy Spirit. However, according to the scriptures Jesus Christ has a God. Who could this be? Who is Jesus’ God?

“You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions”—Hebrews 1:9 ESV

From the above scripture, Jesus’ God has anointed him more anyone else. Who is Jesus Christ’s God? read more

Is Jesus A Creature Who Has God Over Him?

Is Jesus A Creature Who Has God Over Him?

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The Trinity doctrine says that Jesus, the Son of God, is not a creature, but is Almighty God himself. However, could it possibly be true that Jesus is a creature who has God over him? If Jesus is a creature with God over him, the Trinity doctrine is proven false. The following is a discussion with a Trinitarian about these and related issues. “T” stands for Trinitarian, and “BA” stands for us at this website.

BA—Since the Bible says he is “the firstborn of every creature” (Col 1:15 KJV), “whose origin is from of old, from ancient days” (Micah 5:2 NRSV).
T – The firstborn of every creature; not the first of the creation, or the first creature God made; for all things in Colossians 1:16 are said to be created by him, and therefore he himself can never be a creature. read more

God the Son Dogma Refuted

God the Son Dogma Refuted

  Jesus Letterpress - Photo, Image                       Jesus is the Son of God. But is he “God the Son”?   A discussion with a Trinitarian about whether Jesus Christ is “God the Son” follows. “ T” stands for the Trinitarian and “BA” stands for us at Bible Authenticity.   T—The author of BA believes the Word was a created being, not a man or angel, but some being not identified.

BA—He is Biblically identified. “Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God” (John 20:31 NASB).
T- We are talking about the pre-incarnate Jesus Christ. You said the Word was created by God before creation.

BA—Since the Bible says he is “the firstborn of every creature” (Col 1:15 KJV), “whose origin is from of old, from ancient days” (Micah 5:2 NRSV).

T—I say and John 1:1 says He was God, therefore not a created being.

BA—The Bible says Jesus is “the only begotten God was is in the bosom of his Father”, but is not the “God” that “no one has seen” (John 1:T18 NASB). Being “begotten” means his life had a beginning, therefore he was created. read more

“‘The Angel of the LORD’ Isn’t An Angel, He’s Jesus”?

“‘The Angel of the LORD’ Isn’t An Angel, He’s Jesus”?

Is the Bible reliable?
Who is “the angel of the LORD”?

“Some say the Angel of the LORD in the Hebrew Scriptures is no different from other angels. But He is far different. In fact, He is God Himself.”—-Trinitarian Website

It is very awkward for Trinitarians to believe that Jesus is eternally co-equal and co-eternal with God, and yet he’s never mentioned in the Old Testament (OT), but the holy Spirit is. When we read the New Testament, however, we cannot miss the active role that Jesus plays as Savior and Head of the Church. To support their eternal Triune God dogma, Trinitarians have concocted the unscriptural idea that Jesus, as their “second person of the Trinity”, was “the angel of the LORD” who is mentioned a number of times in the OT.
This is the viewpoint that Trinitarians argue from, and we are defending what the scriptures actually say, in the discussion with a Trinitarian that follows. (“BA” stands for us here at this website, and “T” stands for the Trinitarian.) read more

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